I beg to differ, sir. Here's Joel Sorenson's member page for MIGPC. http://www.migpc.com/Members/members.html (1997-1998 Grand Prix's, fourth down on the right) You'll see the HVII listed under performance modifications. Joel no longer has his GT, but he ran the 14.4 with the HVII. I'm almost 100% sure Paul had one as well. I couldn't find Paul's member page on MIGPC...I'm guessing he removed it since he now has a Trans Am. About Paul having a stock downpipe...I'm not so sure about that. I know he was cat-less, but it might have been stock up to that point.Timberwarp said:HVII wasn't created at the time when Pman and Joel pulled those times.  Also, Pman had stock DP. 
That's it? Very impressive. I guess I was just a little bit misinformed about what you were running. Spring blockers, huh? So that's how you got those 2.0x second 60's.pman said:14.5 I had rockers, stock manifolds,stock dp,custom cai then 2.5 straight pipe exhaust, dhp pcm, MAFT+, aluminum coil mount, FULL INTERIOR!, rear spring blockers.Other little things Tr55 plugs, msd wires and coil packs. No HVII, heads, or dp. I had ported aluminum heads with my cam project...but the cam was way too big and i kept breaking things so i demoded.