Help with tuning with HPTuners

929 Views 65 Replies 2 Participants Last post by dezldave961, 23 d ago

Turbogn

Discussion Starter · 2 mo ago

I have a 1988 Fiero GT with an L32. I took it out for its first run this spring and I'm showing 4-5 degrees of KR & running a little lean at 105 Kpa manifold pressure and at different points I'm also seeing super rich values. I have been at the HP Tuners forum for help but I'm just getting the feeling that if it's not an LS then they're not interested.
I've been getting responses like;

1) "3800 computers are super basic, there is almost no tables on those computers.
Anything you see on youtube that uses a LS based V8 computer will have 10x the amount of tables. The 3800's are MAF based and very simple."

2) "those ecm's do not offer an custom operating systems, what you see under the tabs is what you get for these older ecms. "

3) "speed density custom operating systems have absolutely nothing to do with adjusting for knock retard and fueling. "
My main question is, How are people tuning their 3800's if HP Tuners is useless for it according to HP Tuners?

Pin	Wire Color	Circuit No.	Function
1	BLK	2762	Low Reference
2-3	--	--	Not Used
4	LT GRN	1222	1-2 Shift Solenoid Valve Control
5	DK BLU	473	High Speed Cooling Fan Relay Control
6	DK GRN	335	Low Speed Cooling Fan Relay Control
7	BLK	630	Camshaft Position Signal
8	PPL/WHT	430	Low Resolution Engine Speed Signal
9	LT BLU/BLK	647	Medium Resolution Engine Speed Signal
10	GRY	2704	5-Volt Reference
11	--	--	Not Used
12	BLK	808	Low Reference
13	ORN/BLK	469	Low Reference
14-15	--	--	Not Used
16	BLK/WHT	451	Ground
17	BLK	2760	Low Reference
18	--	--	Not Used
19	PPL	1500	Ignition 0 Voltage
20	ORN	1740	Battery Positive Voltage
21-27	--	--	Not Used
28	BLK	808	Low Reference
29	BLK	808	Low Reference
30	PPL	420	TCC Brake Switch Signal
31	BLK	2753	Low Reference
32	GRY/BLK	435	EGR Solenoid Low Control
33	DK BLU	496	KS 1 Signal
34	LT BLU	1876	KS 2 Signal
35-37	--	--	Not Used
38	LT GRN/WHT	1749	IAC Coil B High Control
39-42	--	--	Not Used
43	YEL/BLK	846	Fuel Injector 6 Control
44	YEL/BLK	1223	2-3 Shift Solenoid Valve Control
45	--	--	Not Used
46	LT BLU/BLK	844	Fuel Injector 4 Control
47	BLK/WHT	845	Fuel Injector 5 Control
48	RED/BLK	453	Low Reference
49-52	--	--	Not Used
53	TAN/BLK	424	IC Timing Signal
54	WHT	423	IC Timing Control
55	DK GRN	389	Vehicle Speed Signal
56	BLK/WHT	451	Ground
57	BLK/WHT	451	Ground
58	--	--	Not Used
59	DK GRN	1049	PCM Class 2 Serial Data
60	BLK/WHT	451	Ground
61	BLK	2752	Low Reference
62	DK BLU/WHT	1231	AT ISS Low Signal
63	RED/BLK	1230	AT ISS High Signal
64	YEL	400	VSS High Signal
65	PPL	401	VSS Low Signal
66-67	--	--	Not Used
68	YEL	772	Transmission Range Switch Signal B
69	YEL	492	MAF Sensor Signal
70	--	--	Not Used
71	ORN/BLK	463	Requested Torque Signal (JL9)
72	DK GRN	83	Cruise Control Inhibit Signal
73	LT GRN/BLK	1745	Fuel Injector 2 Control
74-75	--	--	Not Used
76	DK GRN/WHT	428	EVAP Canister Purge Solenoid Control
77-78	--	--	Not Used
79	BLK	1744	Fuel Injector 1 Control
80	BLK	2751	Low Reference

Pin	Wire Color	Circuit No.	Function
1	--	--	Not Used
2	WHT	1310	EVAP Canister Vent Solenoid Control
3	DK GRN/WHT	465	Fuel Pump Relay Control
4	RED	1676	EGR Solenoid High Control
5	BRN/WHT	419	MIL Control
6	--	--	Not Used
7	LT BLU/WHT	1747	IAC Coil A High Control
8	--	--	Not Used
9	TAN/BLK	464	Delivered Torque Signal (JL9)
10	PPL	412	HO2S High Signal-Sensor 1
11	PPL/WHT	1668	HO2S High Signal-Sensor 2
12-15	--	--	Not Used
16	WHT	776	Transmission Range Switch Signal P
17	--	--	Not Used
18	BLK/WHT	771	Transmission Range Switch Signal A
19	TAN/BLK	231	Oil Pressure Switch Signal
20-22	--	--	Not Used
23	PPL	806	Crank Voltage
24	PNK	239	Ignition 1 Voltage
25	LT GRN	432	MAP Sensor Signal
26	YEL	410	ECT Sensor Signal
27	RED/BLK	380	A/C Refrigerant Pressure Sensor Signal
28	BRN	1456	EGR Valve Position Signal
29	--	--	Not Used
30	GRY	2702	5-Volt Reference
31	--	--	Not Used
32	GRY	2709	5-Volt Reference
33	GRY	2701	5-Volt Reference
34	GRY	2700	5-Volt Reference
35	BLK	808	Low Reference
36	--	--	Not Used
37	BLK/WHT	3113	HO2S Heater Low Control-Sensor 1
38	--	--	Not Used
39	DK GRN/WHT	459	A/C Compressor Clutch Relay Control
40-41	--	--	Not Used
42	PNK/BLK	1746	Fuel Injector 3 Control
43	--	--	Not Used
44	LT BLU/BLK	1748	IAC Coil A Low Control
45	RED/BLK	1228	PC Solenoid Valve High Control
46	LT BLU/WHT	1229	PC Solenoid Valve Low Control
47	--	--	Not Used
48	BRN	3122	HO2S Heater Low Control-Sensor 2
49	LT GRN/BLK	444	IAC Coil B Low Control
50	TAN	472	IAT Sensor Signal
51-54	--	--	Not Used
55	DK GRN	890	Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Signal
56	GRY	773	Transmission Range Switch Signal C
57	--	--	Not Used
58	BRN	1174	Oil Level Switch Signal
59	WHT	85	Cruise Control Engaged Signal
60	--	--	Not Used
61	RED	225	Generator Turn On Signal
62	--	--	Not Used
63	YEL	657	TCC Release Switch Signal
64-65	--	--	Not Used
66	DK BLU	417	TP Sensor Signal
67	--	--	Not Used
68	YEL/BLK	1227	TFT Sensor Signal
69	PPL	1589	Fuel Level Sensor Signal
70-75	--	--	Not Used
76	YEL/BLK	625	Starter Enable Relay Control
77	GRY	1724	Boost Control Solenoid Control (L67)
78	BRN	418	TCC PWM Solenoid Valve Control
79-80	--	--	Not Used

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