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ZZP SS supercharger kit for l36??

Is it really cost effective for the power you get? I am still looking at the ct turbo kit (I hope someday ) but whats up with this kit anybody run it yet? If so yes, no, maybe, heck no, heck yeah, is there any potential or is it a waste of time if i want to do more later.
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There's a guy currently running an SS kit on club GP his best so far is 13.4
He should be in the 12's very soon.So it really depends on how far you want to take your car.
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yes, I would agree that it depends on how far you are going with the car. It is relitively inexpensive power adder.

Personally, If I had an N/A car and wanted a power adder. I would be looking into a turbo kit. maybe more money, but more power and more opportunity later.
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yes, I would agree that it depends on how far you are going with the car. It is relitively inexpensive power adder.

Personally, If I had an N/A car and wanted a power adder. I would be looking into a turbo kit. maybe more money, but more power and more opportunity later.
Been there, done that.. sold the turbo kit. Our cars have transmissions that suck so if you want a great daily driver, you can take them to low 13's / high 12's and that's about it. After that, keep a lot of money handy for towing, trailer, special cell phone for contacting Ed Morad, spare tranny, spare shortblock, etc. Bang for the buck, that m90 kit is a great option for the money.

If you want a sweet setup and you want to get to low 12's or faster, I highly suggest the fastest and best option is an intercooled turbo with built tranny.
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What pector said is correct the ss kit is a good bang for the buck with alot of potential.Turbo will get you lower than 12's but definatley if chartering in that territory a built tranny should be considered.
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Is it really cost effective for the power you get? I am still looking at the ct turbo kit (I hope someday ) but whats up with this kit anybody run it yet? If so yes, no, maybe, heck no, heck yeah, is there any potential or is it a waste of time if i want to do more later.
I don't think it was a waste of time.
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its a great bang for the buck, I love mine
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I don't think it was a waste of time.

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Wonder why that is...

Question is, how far do you want to push a stock n/a bottom end? I'm running one in my car, pushing over 415hp at the crank, and it's kinda scary. Most turbo folks (who usually started off as N/A guys) tend to swap for L67/32 bottoms or built shortblocks. I even did one for a car (L36 out for L32 in) and took it to 419whp (over 520hp).

The main reason for this kit is to save someone the effort of swapping s/c heads/LIM into the car. THAT'S IT!!! I'm a fan of helping people add mods to their car in any safe way possible, but the kit just promotes laziness in that respect.

BERRYFASTGT, it's great that you've taken the kit so far, and congrats on that. Sometimes you need to realize there's a difference between John/Jane Doe the daily modder, and someone who's acting as an advetising footnote for a company. With all the effort used to install your mods, it would be FAR easier to install an L67 top end, rather than mess around with inferior n/a components in that dept. (I say this because the top cars in our community run L67-based components in that region, even though they could easily swap for L36 ones... granted the aluminum head factor, but the point holds true)

I'm running an L36 shortblock by limited choice during an emergency engine rebuild, which happened to work out in my favor after thinking about it. I ran a 3.3-3.0 pulley with the XP cam & Gen 3 M90, and now 3.0-2.8 with the cam & Gen V. I have no doubt that compression forcing lower boost levels is good for M90's (and even other power adders to save from making heat), but the fact that you can push a stock L36 block past double it's production output (200hp), is kinda scary. Even if you slap another bottom end in there, you're still leaving this kit on out of stubborn-ness, or some other blatant reason.

I said it in a CGP post, and I'll say it again... instead of messing with a kit that limits things like pulley availability, an L67 top conversion is much less difficult to deal with in the end.

From my post:
-> L67 heads - $200
-> L67 LIM - $50
-> Gen 3 M90 - $250
-> L67 TB - $25 (****, you can drive to Detroit and HAVE mine that came off for the N*)
-> PCM tuning - $50 (pizza and beer with a guy who has a PT)
-> L67 MAP sensor & vac lines - $20

For about $6-700 you can have an improperly badged GTP. With the 3.8 pulley on 9.4:1 compression, you may wanna slap rockers, PEM's, and so forth in there. So let's say for about $1,200 you'd be in fairly good shape to hit 13's


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you do realize the crank is the same as an L67 as it is in the L36, the rods are longer and pistons are diff, but theres no problem here, L36 lower end will handle up to 500 HP.... I'm running upper 12's with stage 2 heads milled .030 and MLS .051 head gaskets, alittle over 10.1:1 compression, I don't have to run much boost to get me there(less heat generated by the blower)....it dosen't scare me to run this setup
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