L32 into 94 S-10 with a T-5

[bigjoe1015]

First, let me say, sorry for the book, but this is gonna be the "be all and end all of S-10 swaps".

I am planning to use an L32 in my 94 S-10. Currently it has the 2.2L and the T-5. Not sure if it is the World class T-5, yet, but I plan to use the original T-5 either way. If and when it blows up, I'll replace it, and call it lesson learned, and we'll all be the wiser. To my knowledge, no one has tried this because of massive speculation by people who just don't know, or those who think they know it all. If anyone has experience in this area, please contact me.

Whatever happens, I do not want to hear everyone say that I should get the drive train from a Camaro. That's the easy, and more expensive way out of this. I know this can be done. I've spent 2 solid weeks on the internet researching this, and I know that the 94-95 T-5 has the right bellhousing, gearset, starter location, and the proper output shaft to make the speedo work, what I am not sure of is the input shaft length. The S-10 with the 2.2 and the Camaro 3.8 use the same spline count, and the same pilot bushing, the same alignment tool, AND, I know that a 96 S-10 and the Camaro 3.8 use the same clutch set. The reason that the 94 and 96 S-10 clutch is different is because of the throwout bearing. It's the same diameter of clutch, so the flywheel dimension from the Camaro is compatible with the 94 S-10 Clutch. The thickness of the flywheel is another sticky point. I would also need to check the dimension from the flywheel face to the block mating surface to see if they are compatible.

The sticky part of this is the dimension from the face of the flywheel to the deepest part of the crankshaft where the pilot rests. If the camaro 3.8 is shorter, it should work, as long as it isn't too short. If the S-10 has a longer pilot on the input shaft, then it can be shortened, as long as it isn't too much to remove.

If anyone can help with measurements, or insight, I'd love to hear it. If you want to give me reasons why it won't work, tell me, but be prepared to be corrected if you're wrong. Don't mean to be a dick, but, I've done quite a bit of homework on this.

ECM and wiring, I can handle, so that isn't too much of an issue. The TB to firewall clearance is an issue that I believe I have solved thanks to some Austrailian friends of mine. (thanx Commodore fanatics!) Exhaust should work itself out as the Camaro manifolds or headers can be made to work since I have a welder, lots of friends who love tinkering, and great friends at a machine shop.

I don't want a V8, so don't even suggest it. I can get better milage and longer tire life with the 3800. This is my daily driver, after all, and NO it will not get a supercharger for the same reasons. (yet)

Lets get the party started, shall we?!

[1993 SLE]

take lots of pics, Billboost and i know a guy that would love to do a L67 in a 03 xtreme 5 speed

[bigjoe1015]

Honestly, from what I've read about the T-5, the L67 would tear it apart unless you drove it like a grandma. Too much torque from the L67.

Being an 03, as long as its a 2.2, he should be OK. Most boxes in 03 were the WC ones, but to know for 100% sure, he'll have to take his trans out to see if the plug in the front is steel or composite. If it's steel, then he has a WC box, if not, he has a non WC trans and its pretty useless behind the L67. Yet another reason I'm not supercharging my S-10.

The fix for that problem is this: Use the 94-95 Bellhousing, slave, and throwout bearing and fork, use the T-5 WC from a Mustang, and have the output shaft from his original T-5 installed into the Mustang case to drive his speedo, and he should be set. Make sure the T-5 from the Mustang has a 7.18" input shaft with 26 splines, though. They used a couple different ones.

I'll take plenty of pix, I figure I'll need to know how I put it together so when it breaks, I'll know how to take it apart!

[dezldave961]

Doing the same swap in a '95 with an MP112 setup, but throwing the 2.2L/T-5/rear axle in the trash now, rather than after the 1st WOT attempt. Doing a hardened 4L60e (I hate the rpm's my buddy's LS1 has to turn with a TH400, so I'll try to avoid needing one), along with a 9" rear of course.

I'll gladly share any pix/info while mounting up the engine. Since I'm using the 4L60e, I'm hoping the trans location can remain about the same, just working around it with crossmember/rack adjustments.

Dunno when I'll pull my truck in, since the shop is filled with sleds to rebuild & prep to head back racing in WI/NY/ON/QC. Hope to be able to come on here and see your progress soon, though.

- Dave

[palermocorey90]

I cant wait Dave

[Frederic20]

I can't wait too

[rockin345]

"ECM and wiring, I can handle, so that isn't too much of an issue. The TB to firewall clearance is an issue that I believe I have solved thanks to some Austrailian friends of mine. (thanx Commodore fanatics!) Exhaust should work itself out as the Camaro manifolds or headers can be made to work since I have a welder, lots of friends who love tinkering, and great friends at a machine shop."


very interesting. pics please. your thread shortcut brings back to same page. i am having difficulties with (1) Throttle body clearance to front of truck body. (2) what to do with pin 55 on pcm, fuel enable? Do I ground it, or supply power? the frame rails in a Mazda b2200 are much narrower than on an F-body, the stock motor mounts set on the frame rails. I cut the original engine mounts off the frame. i will need to make custom mounts, the tranny cross member mounts pretty good to 4L60E.
I wish i could take pics, our digital camera was stolen last year.
Are you using a Holden Monaro/Commodore intake?
I am currently chasing wires, so i can splice into Mazda harness, install GM fuse panel in right kick. the way things are now, I plan to keep factory fuse panel in left lower dash, will install GM fuse panel in right kick,( where the B-2200 ECM was). i would like to use GM FWD power distribution center mounted on firewall above engine, thus controlling fuel pump, cooling fans and a security (start) relay under hood. shoe horning this drive train into a 88 Mazda is very difficult, but I will complete.

I assume that you are not using the Body Control Module (BCM), so how are you handling the security input to the PCM?