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04-01-2008, 03:32 PM
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Jake Tarter
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200 WHP, what's the best route?
I've been thinking about what I want to do to my car, (My theoretical future car that is, I'm likely picking up a 9c1 Impala within a month), And I've decided that bumping the 3800 up to 200 horsepower at the wheels would probably make me pretty happy.
I've read up on the basics - intake, thermostat, plog, hv3, downpipes, tuners, cams, rockers...
Basically, I just want to know what the best combination of parts is going to be to achieve this goal. Also, if I can get to this power level with using rockers over cams, I'd prefer that, as it seems that rockers have an easier installation process. However, I know several guys who are more knowledgeable on cars that I, that could help, or I could always look into having it installed for me... What I'm saying is I'm not opposed to a cam install if that's the best route.
Also, as a side question, what kind of 1/4 mile time would I be looking at with that level of power and a shift kit?
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04-02-2008, 01:54 AM
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Ryan Murray
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my car made made 199 rwhp with basically just 1.9 roller rockers, headers, intake, and exhaust
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04-02-2008, 01:58 AM
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Nice, thanks for the response. Good to know it's a pretty acheiveable number... I was thinking I might have to install cams, but it sounds like it's very acheiveable with just rockers and exhaust work.
However, would there be a huge difference between midband power opposed to just upper rpm power between the cams and rockers?
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04-02-2008, 02:15 AM
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Ryan Murray
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it depends on your exhaust pipe size, but high ratio rockers tend to give you power in the ~4k plus mark. A cam would gain you more mid ranger power in most cases i believe
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04-02-2008, 02:21 AM
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Jake Tarter
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So, assuming I went with the 1.9 rockerks, what exhaust size would best supplement it for a full power band?
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04-02-2008, 07:05 AM
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You aren't going to get 200 whp with the same mods as meatyshells. There is less drivetrain loss with the rwd 3800s. You will most likely need at least a cam to get around there. If I were you I would just get a supercharged impala, much easier to mod and make power.
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04-02-2008, 03:32 PM
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Hm, alright, thanks for the reply.
I'll look into a supercharged, I'm just having trouble finding them in my price range (under 6k).
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04-02-2008, 05:38 PM
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Why not just bolt one of these bitches on  ?
You would be spending less than that setup you listed and you would be faster. Its a win-win situation.
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04-02-2008, 05:55 PM
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I found my GTP with 70k miles for 7,000 so im sure you can find something.
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1998 Grand Prix GT (Retired)
13.689@97.54 1.953 60' Naturally Aspirated
12.233@111.04 1.812 60' Nitrous
IS3 N/A Cam | IS3 Heads milled .060 | Ported LIM | SLP Headers | AL 103's | MSD Coils | Intense Race Trans | 3.69's | 4000 Stall ATI | HV3 | 1.7/1.8 RR's | Borla Cat-back | FWI | Electric WP |
2001 Grand Prix GTP
13.860@100.34 2.072 60'
SLP Headers | AL 104's | FWI | 180* | Borla Cat-back | PCM | 3.4 MPS |
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